mitt romney has a strong energy policy, president obama does not. and this will be wildly in play and california seemed to have the wildly high gas prices because they have the added regulations and taxes and shoot themselves into the foot. and they won't build new refineries on problems of they already have. charles: they won't take advantage of natural resources, won't allow drilling, it's economic suicide. >> it's just not smart period. when you talk about whether or not we're topping out in gas prices, that's yet to be seen. oil prices are down and back below $90 a barrel and still high energy prices, so. charles: it's a cautionary tale for the rest of the country because we haven't built any refineries and even though the rules aren't as draconian as california a hiccup could see-- >> energy production is at a 15 year high. if you look at it as a symbol of the u.s. economy and the health of it. our usage is still about 12% lower than last year and that means that people are still driving less and consuming less. >> absolutely. the new poll from